[penguicon-general] Creative Commons Discount for Program Participants

[Shay]

Very true.  I've always had fun at all of the panels that I've been involved
with.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn at gmail.com> wrote:

> All those are excellent examples. But also keep in mind that it sounds
> like Shay is doing some pretty fun and rewarding stuff by
> participating in those particular events, whether she gets a discount
> or not.
>
> -Matt
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:56 PM, chuck child <chuck.child at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well. . Im not your track head, but here's what I would say:
> >
> > A three minute youtube video could be quickly made about any of the
> three.
> > The first two could be moderately well explained, in five or six
> paragraphs,
> > well enough to get the point across to someone not in-the-know.
> > You could practice the first two into a microphone, and submit the mp3.
> > You would draft the third like it was a play, with rough blocking, lines,
> > and cosume notes.
> > You could write up the flirting panel like a magazine article.
> >
> > Im sure I could come up with a couple more, were this my job, and knowing
> > that the whole point is to condense the essence of a cool panel, so the
> > world can touch it.. . . And five years from now we can use the first
> video
> > as a launching point for a version 2.0 of the same thing.
> >
> >
> > On 9/4/08, Shay <bardicwench at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> My only question is: What kind of a paper would I do?  The panels that
> >> I've frequently been on at Penguicon are: flirting panels, Introduction
> to
> >> Penguicon/Fandom panels and Chocolate Ritual.
> >>
> >> ~Shay
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:36 PM, chuck child <chuck.child at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> From my current understanding, the problem we are trying to solve is
> >>> this:   We get a goodly number of people who sign up for four panels,
> >>> prepare not a whit, and don't really have any enthusiasm about the
> panels
> >>> they are on, simply to get the discount.    Some of those don't even
> bother
> >>> to show up to the panels they are supposed to present.
> >>>
> >>> As for what we do with these papers. . . Well, we are working hard to
> >>> become a charitable institution, with an educational scope, and
> hopefully
> >>> without quashing any of the fun we already have.   It seems to me that
> this
> >>> step would allow us to collect, and present to the world at large, the
> same
> >>> type of information we are presenting at our panels, thus broadening
> our
> >>> scope and effectiveness, without greatly affecting the convention
> itself.
> >>>
> >>> -Chuck
> >>>
> >>> On 9/4/08, Garry Stahl <tesral at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Jer wrote:
> >>>> > And changing just for the sake of not resisting change is terrible!
> >>>>
> >>>> "Because we have always done it that way" is the worst reason to
> >>>> continue to do anything.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Because it's new" is the worse reason to stop doing it the way we
> have
> >>>> always done it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Demonstrate "better" and I'm on that like white on rice.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the current discussion I have yet to see a need, or any evidence
> that
> >>>> this is better.  Yea, I'm beating Matt's idea like a rented mule.  But
> >>>> that is what you should do.  Flog it to bits now, if it cannot
> withstand
> >>>> that, likely it is not your friend.  I am for the sake of discussion
> the
> >>>> Devil's Advocate.  My actually option aside, I am going to rag on
> Matt's
> >>>> brain child until it is strong, or dead.
> >>>>
> >>>> Several Things:  These are direct questions to Matt.  I believe these
> >>>> are question that need answers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is their a glut of possible panels that requires a winnowing process?
> >>>> Programing for 48 hours, there have to be two things to do every hour
> at
> >>>> least.  So call that 3 panels at any given time.  144 panels usually
> >>>> with two to three presenters each.  Are we overstocked?
> >>>>
> >>>> What is a Creative Commons white paper?  At you looking for a quick
> >>>> outline of the panel to be, or a dissertation?
> >>>>
> >>>> If the former, I can understand the idea as a way to show what the
> panel
> >>>> is about.  I offered one without being asked last year on my "How to
> >>>> Write for RPGs" panel.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why does Penguicon need them if the latter?  We are not a peer review
> >>>> body, presenting to us is for entertainment only.  Tell me why this
> >>>> effort is worth my time.
> >>>>
> >>>> What happens after the Con?  Do these papers shrivel up and become a
> >>>> cobweb page or is there really a chance they will see some use?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Garry AKA --Phoenix-- Rising above the Flames.
> >>>>
> >>>> Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
> >>>> Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
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