[penguicon-general] Creative Commons Discount for Program Participants

[Matt Arnold]

All those are excellent examples. But also keep in mind that it sounds
like Shay is doing some pretty fun and rewarding stuff by
participating in those particular events, whether she gets a discount
or not.

-Matt


On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:56 PM, chuck child <chuck.child at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well. . Im not your track head, but here's what I would say:
>
> A three minute youtube video could be quickly made about any of the three.
> The first two could be moderately well explained, in five or six paragraphs,
> well enough to get the point across to someone not in-the-know.
> You could practice the first two into a microphone, and submit the mp3.
> You would draft the third like it was a play, with rough blocking, lines,
> and cosume notes.
> You could write up the flirting panel like a magazine article.
>
> Im sure I could come up with a couple more, were this my job, and knowing
> that the whole point is to condense the essence of a cool panel, so the
> world can touch it.. . . And five years from now we can use the first video
> as a launching point for a version 2.0 of the same thing.
>
>
> On 9/4/08, Shay <bardicwench at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My only question is: What kind of a paper would I do?  The panels that
>> I've frequently been on at Penguicon are: flirting panels, Introduction to
>> Penguicon/Fandom panels and Chocolate Ritual.
>>
>> ~Shay
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:36 PM, chuck child <chuck.child at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From my current understanding, the problem we are trying to solve is
>>> this:   We get a goodly number of people who sign up for four panels,
>>> prepare not a whit, and don't really have any enthusiasm about the panels
>>> they are on, simply to get the discount.    Some of those don't even bother
>>> to show up to the panels they are supposed to present.
>>>
>>> As for what we do with these papers. . . Well, we are working hard to
>>> become a charitable institution, with an educational scope, and hopefully
>>> without quashing any of the fun we already have.   It seems to me that this
>>> step would allow us to collect, and present to the world at large, the same
>>> type of information we are presenting at our panels, thus broadening our
>>> scope and effectiveness, without greatly affecting the convention itself.
>>>
>>> -Chuck
>>>
>>> On 9/4/08, Garry Stahl <tesral at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jer wrote:
>>>> > And changing just for the sake of not resisting change is terrible!
>>>>
>>>> "Because we have always done it that way" is the worst reason to
>>>> continue to do anything.
>>>>
>>>> "Because it's new" is the worse reason to stop doing it the way we have
>>>> always done it.
>>>>
>>>> Demonstrate "better" and I'm on that like white on rice.
>>>>
>>>> In the current discussion I have yet to see a need, or any evidence that
>>>> this is better.  Yea, I'm beating Matt's idea like a rented mule.  But
>>>> that is what you should do.  Flog it to bits now, if it cannot withstand
>>>> that, likely it is not your friend.  I am for the sake of discussion the
>>>> Devil's Advocate.  My actually option aside, I am going to rag on Matt's
>>>> brain child until it is strong, or dead.
>>>>
>>>> Several Things:  These are direct questions to Matt.  I believe these
>>>> are question that need answers.
>>>>
>>>> Is their a glut of possible panels that requires a winnowing process?
>>>> Programing for 48 hours, there have to be two things to do every hour at
>>>> least.  So call that 3 panels at any given time.  144 panels usually
>>>> with two to three presenters each.  Are we overstocked?
>>>>
>>>> What is a Creative Commons white paper?  At you looking for a quick
>>>> outline of the panel to be, or a dissertation?
>>>>
>>>> If the former, I can understand the idea as a way to show what the panel
>>>> is about.  I offered one without being asked last year on my "How to
>>>> Write for RPGs" panel.
>>>>
>>>> Why does Penguicon need them if the latter?  We are not a peer review
>>>> body, presenting to us is for entertainment only.  Tell me why this
>>>> effort is worth my time.
>>>>
>>>> What happens after the Con?  Do these papers shrivel up and become a
>>>> cobweb page or is there really a chance they will see some use?
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
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