[penguicon-general] Creative Commons Discount for Program Participants

[Shay]

My only question is: What kind of a paper would I do?  The panels that I've
frequently been on at Penguicon are: flirting panels, Introduction to
Penguicon/Fandom panels and Chocolate Ritual.

~Shay

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:36 PM, chuck child <chuck.child at gmail.com> wrote:

> From my current understanding, the problem we are trying to solve is
> this:   We get a goodly number of people who sign up for four panels,
> prepare not a whit, and don't really have any enthusiasm about the panels
> they are on, simply to get the discount.    Some of those don't even bother
> to show up to the panels they are supposed to present.
>
> As for what we do with these papers. . . Well, we are working hard to
> become a charitable institution, with an educational scope, and hopefully
> without quashing any of the fun we already have.   It seems to me that this
> step would allow us to collect, and present to the world at large, the same
> type of information we are presenting at our panels, thus broadening our
> scope and effectiveness, without greatly affecting the convention itself.
>
> -Chuck
>
> On 9/4/08, Garry Stahl <tesral at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Jer wrote:
>> > And changing just for the sake of not resisting change is terrible!
>>
>> "Because we have always done it that way" is the worst reason to
>> continue to do anything.
>>
>> "Because it's new" is the worse reason to stop doing it the way we have
>> always done it.
>>
>> Demonstrate "better" and I'm on that like white on rice.
>>
>> In the current discussion I have yet to see a need, or any evidence that
>> this is better.  Yea, I'm beating Matt's idea like a rented mule.  But
>> that is what you should do.  Flog it to bits now, if it cannot withstand
>> that, likely it is not your friend.  I am for the sake of discussion the
>> Devil's Advocate.  My actually option aside, I am going to rag on Matt's
>> brain child until it is strong, or dead.
>>
>> Several Things:  These are direct questions to Matt.  I believe these
>> are question that need answers.
>>
>> Is their a glut of possible panels that requires a winnowing process?
>> Programing for 48 hours, there have to be two things to do every hour at
>> least.  So call that 3 panels at any given time.  144 panels usually
>> with two to three presenters each.  Are we overstocked?
>>
>> What is a Creative Commons white paper?  At you looking for a quick
>> outline of the panel to be, or a dissertation?
>>
>> If the former, I can understand the idea as a way to show what the panel
>> is about.  I offered one without being asked last year on my "How to
>> Write for RPGs" panel.
>>
>> Why does Penguicon need them if the latter?  We are not a peer review
>> body, presenting to us is for entertainment only.  Tell me why this
>> effort is worth my time.
>>
>> What happens after the Con?  Do these papers shrivel up and become a
>> cobweb page or is there really a chance they will see some use?
>>
>> --
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