[penguicon-general] Penguicon is Awesome

[Molly de Blanc]

I'm actually all for a small disclaimer in the program.

On 4/25/07, Rob Landley <rob at landley.net> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 25 April 2007 1:25 am, Catherine Olanich Raymond wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 April 2007 1:09 am, you wrote:
> > > Catherine Olanich Raymond wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 24 April 2007 5:30 pm, Seth Breidbart wrote:
> > > >> Rob Landley <rob at landley.net> wrote:
> > > >>> Alas, you can't put "3 am: skinny-dipping" on the official
> schedule...
> > > >>
> > > >> It's been done before, at several different conventions (with
> support
> > > >> in the hotel contracts).
> > > >
> > > > Seth is correct, though it's been years since it's happened at any
> > > > conventions I know about.  You *would* have to deal with the hotel
> about
> > > > it (support in the hotel contract is a great idea), and you might
> have
> to
> > > > treat it as a private event.  Depending on amount of support for the
> > > > idea, it may be worth pursuing.
> > >
> > > You'll probably need to hire a lifeguard as well.
> >
> > Or find a volunteer with the requisite training and certifications, yes.
>
> By this logic, having _any_ event in the pool would require a
> lifeguard.  The
> con is a volunteer run event, and we can't guarantee anything.  We're not
> licensed as a restaurant, yet we serve food.  We serve alcohol which is
> _darn_ dangerous from a liability perspective.  Somebody could slip on a
> ball
> from the chaos machine.  Don't get me STARTED on the liquid nitrogen.
>
> We can put big disclaimers in the program book if somebody wants to worry
> about being sued, but mostly we just do the best we can.  If somebody
> wants
> to suggest that there _should_ be a lifeguard, and wants to volunteer for
> it,
> fine.  But if somebody says we NEED to hire a lifeguard, and goes on about
> certifications and procedures, and you're going to prevent us from holding
> some event without the correct forms being filled out, then you're going
> to
> prevent that event from happening.
>
> If you can't accept the risk of an event, don't attend.
>
> Rob
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-- 
Faithfully yours,

molly.
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