[Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've been thinking

Ron Blanchett muteid10t at gmail.com
Mon Jun 16 16:58:35 GMT 2008


yes but we are still filling out the paper work and until we get that
paper back that says we are we are not, tabled for now and until then.

On 6/16/08, Jer <jer.lance at gmail.com> wrote:
> Aren't we in the process of filing the paperwork to become a charitable
> organization? One of the 50somethingCsomethings?
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Ron Blanchett <muteid10t at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I did a little research in the last few minutes and unless we are a
> > non-profit we have problems with gabling in the state. If we where a
> > non-profit we would be covered under the states Charitable Gaming Laws
> > and we could apply for a Millionaire Party License that covers Texas
> > Hold'em and other gambling. So I guess this is a no go, unless I find
> > something else by doing more research.
> >
> > -Ron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/16/08, Marshal Newrock <crywolf at kyndimarion.net> wrote:
> > > What if it were an event where participants donate a specific amount of
> > >  money (the same for everyone), in return for which they get a stack of
> > >  poker chips?  The winners, as determined either by ranking or by total
> > >  chips held, then get prizes and/or can determine the recipient of the
> > >  proceeds.  (Everyone gets ribbons.)  Some of the details would depend
> > >  on the format used, of course.
> > >
> > >  Would this give enough leeway, or would it still be considered
> > >  gambling?  My hope is that a donation with no cash return would put it
> > >  more in the realm of a raffle, but I expect it isn't as simple as that.
> > >
> > >  - Marshal
> > >
> > >  On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:39:31 -0400
> > >
> > > Jer <jer.lance at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > An auction to benefit someone isn't a big deal. Gambling for charity,
> > >  > however, requires considerably more time and energy devoted to
> > >  > legally doing everything.
> > >  >
> > >  > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:35 PM, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>
> > >  > wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > > I'm going to bet someone who remembers how we handled the auction
> to
> > >  > > benefit Tracy was handled is still around, they should be able to
> > >  > > tell us what we did to keep from being in trouble with that one. :)
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Sarah
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
> > >  > > "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
> > >  > > Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
> > >  > > The Chocolate Goddess, coming soon to a con near you
> > >  > > Warrior Princess of the Clan of the Lonely Goatherd
> > >  > > IWG Wench #539 MCL, Local 69
> > >  > > Scarlet B. Harlot, Figure Head for the Scarlet Harlot -- Privateer
> > >  > > #36 W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
> > >  > > "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
> > >  > >
> > >  > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gini <zoethe at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >  > >
> > >  > >>  It's not a bad thought, assuming all the other logistics could be
> > >  > >> solved, but we would have to make it clear that it's a donation
> > >  > >> event, but not really a charity event - unless Tom has registered
> > >  > >> as a charity, we're just making a gift to him, not making a
> > >  > >> tax-deductible charitable donation.  It might seem nit-picky, but
> > >  > >> these legal differences can really trip people up.  And it still
> > >  > >> runs up against the gambling laws.
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> Gini
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> Rogues are preferable to imbeciles because they sometimes take a
> > >  > >> rest.
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> -Dumas
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> --- On *Mon, 6/16/08, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>* wrote:
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> From: LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>
> > >  > >> Subject: Re: [Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've
> > >  > >> been thinking
> > >  > >> To: penguicon-general at penguicon.org
> > >  > >> Cc: "Penguicon Concom Discussion List" <concom at penguicon.org>
> > >  > >> Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:21 AM
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> Can I suggest a worthy charity?
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> Our own Tom Smith has just had knee surgery to fix a torn tendon
> > >  > >> and will shortly (prolly this week) be having the 6th surgery to
> > >  > >> correct a "birth defect" they've been trying to correct all his
> > >  > >> life.  Tom has been making his living off just his music for the
> > >  > >> past several years and has zero insurance.  I know we did a lot to
> > >  > >> help Tracy through her cancer, maybe we can help Tom now?
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> Sarah
> > >  > >> (brain almost back on the planet)
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
> > >  > >> "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
> > >  > >> Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
> > >  > >> The Chocolate Goddess, coming soon to a con near you
> > >  > >> Warrior Princess of the Clan of the Lonely Goatherd
> > >  > >> IWG Wench #539 MCL, Local 69
> > >  > >> Scarlet B. Harlot, Figure Head for the Scarlet Harlot -- Privateer
> > >  > >> #36 W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
> > >  > >> "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Ron Blanchett
> > >  > >> <muteid10t at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >>> A charity casino event would be much harder to pull off and would
> > >  > >>> require a lot more work just to get off the ground and way more
> > >  > >>> function space to run. This is why just a poker event is on the
> > >  > >>> table right now and also because I don't have the resources or
> > >  > >>> the interest in a full blown casino event.
> > >  > >>>
> > >  > >>> On 6/16/08, Jefferson Fury <gyrovagus at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >  > >>> > My thought is that Texas Hold'em is not poker.  It is the
> > >  > >>> > watered-down bastard offspring of poker and had it been born to
> > >  > >>> > Romulans would have been mercilessly killed at birth.  Why not
> > >  > >>> > have real poker?  Maybe even expand it to "charity casino
> > >  > >>> > event" and have blackjack, craps, roulette?
> > >  > >>> >
> > >  > >>> >  -moatn
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >  Answers are easy.  It's asking the right questions which is hard.
> > >  - GPG Public key: http://kyndimarion.net/crywolf.asc -
> > >
> > >
> >
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