[Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've been thinking

Mon Jun 16 16:52:38 GMT 2008

Aren't we in the process of filing the paperwork to become a charitable
organization? One of the 50somethingCsomethings?

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Ron Blanchett <muteid10t at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did a little research in the last few minutes and unless we are a
> non-profit we have problems with gabling in the state. If we where a
> non-profit we would be covered under the states Charitable Gaming Laws
> and we could apply for a Millionaire Party License that covers Texas
> Hold'em and other gambling. So I guess this is a no go, unless I find
> something else by doing more research.
>
> -Ron
>
> On 6/16/08, Marshal Newrock <crywolf at kyndimarion.net> wrote:
> > What if it were an event where participants donate a specific amount of
> >  money (the same for everyone), in return for which they get a stack of
> >  poker chips?  The winners, as determined either by ranking or by total
> >  chips held, then get prizes and/or can determine the recipient of the
> >  proceeds.  (Everyone gets ribbons.)  Some of the details would depend
> >  on the format used, of course.
> >
> >  Would this give enough leeway, or would it still be considered
> >  gambling?  My hope is that a donation with no cash return would put it
> >  more in the realm of a raffle, but I expect it isn't as simple as that.
> >
> >  - Marshal
> >
> >  On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:39:31 -0400
> >
> > Jer <jer.lance at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > An auction to benefit someone isn't a big deal. Gambling for charity,
> >  > however, requires considerably more time and energy devoted to
> >  > legally doing everything.
> >  >
> >  > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:35 PM, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>
> >  > wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > I'm going to bet someone who remembers how we handled the auction to
> >  > > benefit Tracy was handled is still around, they should be able to
> >  > > tell us what we did to keep from being in trouble with that one. :)
> >  > >
> >  > > Sarah
> >  > >
> >  > > Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
> >  > > "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
> >  > > Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
> >  > > The Chocolate Goddess, coming soon to a con near you
> >  > > Warrior Princess of the Clan of the Lonely Goatherd
> >  > > IWG Wench #539 MCL, Local 69
> >  > > Scarlet B. Harlot, Figure Head for the Scarlet Harlot -- Privateer
> >  > > #36 W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
> >  > > "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
> >  > >
> >  > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gini <zoethe at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > >>  It's not a bad thought, assuming all the other logistics could be
> >  > >> solved, but we would have to make it clear that it's a donation
> >  > >> event, but not really a charity event - unless Tom has registered
> >  > >> as a charity, we're just making a gift to him, not making a
> >  > >> tax-deductible charitable donation.  It might seem nit-picky, but
> >  > >> these legal differences can really trip people up.  And it still
> >  > >> runs up against the gambling laws.
> >  > >>
> >  > >> Gini
> >  > >>
> >  > >> Rogues are preferable to imbeciles because they sometimes take a
> >  > >> rest.
> >  > >>
> >  > >> -Dumas
> >  > >>
> >  > >> --- On *Mon, 6/16/08, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>* wrote:
> >  > >>
> >  > >> From: LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>
> >  > >> Subject: Re: [Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've
> >  > >> been thinking
> >  > >> To: penguicon-general at penguicon.org
> >  > >> Cc: "Penguicon Concom Discussion List" <concom at penguicon.org>
> >  > >> Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:21 AM
> >  > >>
> >  > >> Can I suggest a worthy charity?
> >  > >>
> >  > >> Our own Tom Smith has just had knee surgery to fix a torn tendon
> >  > >> and will shortly (prolly this week) be having the 6th surgery to
> >  > >> correct a "birth defect" they've been trying to correct all his
> >  > >> life.  Tom has been making his living off just his music for the
> >  > >> past several years and has zero insurance.  I know we did a lot to
> >  > >> help Tracy through her cancer, maybe we can help Tom now?
> >  > >>
> >  > >> Sarah
> >  > >> (brain almost back on the planet)
> >  > >>
> >  > >> Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
> >  > >> "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
> >  > >> Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
> >  > >> The Chocolate Goddess, coming soon to a con near you
> >  > >> Warrior Princess of the Clan of the Lonely Goatherd
> >  > >> IWG Wench #539 MCL, Local 69
> >  > >> Scarlet B. Harlot, Figure Head for the Scarlet Harlot -- Privateer
> >  > >> #36 W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
> >  > >> "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
> >  > >>
> >  > >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Ron Blanchett
> >  > >> <muteid10t at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  > >>
> >  > >>> A charity casino event would be much harder to pull off and would
> >  > >>> require a lot more work just to get off the ground and way more
> >  > >>> function space to run. This is why just a poker event is on the
> >  > >>> table right now and also because I don't have the resources or
> >  > >>> the interest in a full blown casino event.
> >  > >>>
> >  > >>> On 6/16/08, Jefferson Fury <gyrovagus at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  > >>> > My thought is that Texas Hold'em is not poker.  It is the
> >  > >>> > watered-down bastard offspring of poker and had it been born to
> >  > >>> > Romulans would have been mercilessly killed at birth.  Why not
> >  > >>> > have real poker?  Maybe even expand it to "charity casino
> >  > >>> > event" and have blackjack, craps, roulette?
> >  > >>> >
> >  > >>> >  -moatn
> >
> >
> > --
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