[Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've been thinking

[Marshal Newrock]

What if it were an event where participants donate a specific amount of
money (the same for everyone), in return for which they get a stack of
poker chips?  The winners, as determined either by ranking or by total
chips held, then get prizes and/or can determine the recipient of the
proceeds.  (Everyone gets ribbons.)  Some of the details would depend
on the format used, of course.

Would this give enough leeway, or would it still be considered
gambling?  My hope is that a donation with no cash return would put it
more in the realm of a raffle, but I expect it isn't as simple as that.

- Marshal

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:39:31 -0400
Jer <jer.lance at gmail.com> wrote:

> An auction to benefit someone isn't a big deal. Gambling for charity,
> however, requires considerably more time and energy devoted to
> legally doing everything.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:35 PM, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm going to bet someone who remembers how we handled the auction to
> > benefit Tracy was handled is still around, they should be able to
> > tell us what we did to keep from being in trouble with that one. :)
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> > Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
> > "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
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> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gini <zoethe at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  It's not a bad thought, assuming all the other logistics could be
> >> solved, but we would have to make it clear that it's a donation
> >> event, but not really a charity event - unless Tom has registered
> >> as a charity, we're just making a gift to him, not making a
> >> tax-deductible charitable donation.  It might seem nit-picky, but
> >> these legal differences can really trip people up.  And it still
> >> runs up against the gambling laws.
> >>
> >> Gini
> >>
> >> Rogues are preferable to imbeciles because they sometimes take a
> >> rest.
> >>
> >> -Dumas
> >>
> >> --- On *Mon, 6/16/08, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>* wrote:
> >>
> >> From: LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've
> >> been thinking
> >> To: penguicon-general at penguicon.org
> >> Cc: "Penguicon Concom Discussion List" <concom at penguicon.org>
> >> Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:21 AM
> >>
> >> Can I suggest a worthy charity?
> >>
> >> Our own Tom Smith has just had knee surgery to fix a torn tendon
> >> and will shortly (prolly this week) be having the 6th surgery to
> >> correct a "birth defect" they've been trying to correct all his
> >> life.  Tom has been making his living off just his music for the
> >> past several years and has zero insurance.  I know we did a lot to
> >> help Tracy through her cancer, maybe we can help Tom now?
> >>
> >> Sarah
> >> (brain almost back on the planet)
> >>
> >> Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
> >> "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
> >> Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
> >> The Chocolate Goddess, coming soon to a con near you
> >> Warrior Princess of the Clan of the Lonely Goatherd
> >> IWG Wench #539 MCL, Local 69
> >> Scarlet B. Harlot, Figure Head for the Scarlet Harlot -- Privateer
> >> #36 W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
> >> "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Ron Blanchett
> >> <muteid10t at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> A charity casino event would be much harder to pull off and would
> >>> require a lot more work just to get off the ground and way more
> >>> function space to run. This is why just a poker event is on the
> >>> table right now and also because I don't have the resources or
> >>> the interest in a full blown casino event.
> >>>
> >>> On 6/16/08, Jefferson Fury <gyrovagus at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > My thought is that Texas Hold'em is not poker.  It is the
> >>> > watered-down bastard offspring of poker and had it been born to
> >>> > Romulans would have been mercilessly killed at birth.  Why not
> >>> > have real poker?  Maybe even expand it to "charity casino
> >>> > event" and have blackjack, craps, roulette?
> >>> >
> >>> >  -moatn

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