[Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've been thinking

Ron Blanchett muteid10t at gmail.com
Mon Jun 16 15:54:42 GMT 2008 

The state sells temporary Beverage Permits.

On 6/16/08, Neal Dudley <neal.dudley at utoledo.edu> wrote:
> If that is the case, how then can there be Oktoberfest parties?  And given
>  that case, how do we get similar legal permission for the delegation of
>  copious amounts of alcoholic beverages?
>
>
>
>  On 6/16/08 3:22 PM, "Ron Blanchett" <muteid10t at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  > I am going to take just a second to point out that technically every
>  > year Penguicon has Given Free beer out in the ConSuite has been a
>  > violation of Michigan Beverage Law.
>  >
>  > No Business in the State of Michigan can give away beer to anyone and
>  > no business in the state can provide beer without a beverage license.
>  >
>  > So if we are going to get technical about this idea we should have
>  > been technical about the Beer issue for the last 6 years.
>  >
>  > I am not trying to rain on the Beer in ConSuite parade just pointing
>  > out the details.
>  > And the gambling law thing is a good reason maybe not to have a
>  > charity poker tournament.
>  >
>  > -Ron
>  >
>  > On 6/16/08, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> Sarah,
>  >>  that was an auction, not a casino tournament, so there was no trouble
>  >>  to prevent.
>  >>
>  >> -Matt
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:35 PM, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>> I'm going to bet someone who remembers how we handled the auction to benefit
>  >>> Tracy was handled is still around, they should be able to tell us what we
>  >>> did to keep from being in trouble with that one. :)
>  >>>
>  >>> Sarah
>  >>>
>  >>> Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
>  >>> "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
>  >>> Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
>  >>> The Chocolate Goddess, coming soon to a con near you
>  >>> Warrior Princess of the Clan of the Lonely Goatherd
>  >>> IWG Wench #539 MCL, Local 69
>  >>> Scarlet B. Harlot, Figure Head for the Scarlet Harlot -- Privateer #36
>  >>> W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
>  >>> "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
>  >>>
>  >>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gini <zoethe at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  >>>>
>  >>>> It's not a bad thought, assuming all the other logistics could be solved,
>  >>>> but we would have to make it clear that it's a donation event, but not
>  >>>> really a charity event - unless Tom has registered as a charity, we're just
>  >>>> making a gift to him, not making a tax-deductible charitable donation.  It
>  >>>> might seem nit-picky, but these legal differences can really trip people
>  >>>> up.  And it still runs up against the gambling laws.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Gini
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Rogues are preferable to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> -Dumas
>  >>>>
>  >>>> --- On Mon, 6/16/08, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>>>
>  >>>> From: LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>
>  >>>> Subject: Re: [Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've been
>  >>>> thinking
>  >>>> To: penguicon-general at penguicon.org
>  >>>> Cc: "Penguicon Concom Discussion List" <concom at penguicon.org>
>  >>>> Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:21 AM
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Can I suggest a worthy charity?
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Our own Tom Smith has just had knee surgery to fix a torn tendon and will
>  >>>> shortly (prolly this week) be having the 6th surgery to correct a "birth
>  >>>> defect" they've been trying to correct all his life.  Tom has been making
>  >>>> his living off just his music for the past several years and has zero
>  >>>> insurance.  I know we did a lot to help Tracy through her cancer, maybe we
>  >>>> can help Tom now?
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Sarah
>  >>>> (brain almost back on the planet)
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
>  >>>> "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
>  >>>> Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
>  >>>> The Chocolate Goddess, coming soon to a con near you
>  >>>> Warrior Princess of the Clan of the Lonely Goatherd
>  >>>> IWG Wench #539 MCL, Local 69
>  >>>> Scarlet B. Harlot, Figure Head for the Scarlet Harlot -- Privateer #36
>  >>>> W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
>  >>>> "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
>  >>>>
>  >>>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Ron Blanchett <muteid10t at gmail.com>
>  >>>> wrote:
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> A charity casino event would be much harder to pull off and would
>  >>>>> require a lot more work just to get off the ground and way more
>  >>>>> function space to run. This is why just a poker event is on the table
>  >>>>> right now and also because I don't have the resources or the interest
>  >>>>> in a full blown casino event.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> On 6/16/08, Jefferson Fury <gyrovagus at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>>>>> My thought is that Texas Hold'em is not poker.  It is the watered-down
>  >>>>>>  bastard offspring of poker and had it been born to Romulans would have
>  >>>>>>  been mercilessly killed at birth.  Why not have real poker?  Maybe
>  >>>>>>  even expand it to "charity casino event" and have blackjack, craps,
>  >>>>>>  roulette?
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>>  -moatn
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>>  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Ron Blanchett <muteid10t at gmail.com>
>  >>>>>> wrote:
>  >>>>>>> I have been throwing this thought around for the last couple of
>  >>>>>> days:
>  >>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>> What does everyone think of having a charity poker tournament this
>  >>>>>>> year at Penguicon???
>  >>>>>>> It would be Texas Hold'em Poker and all the Money used to buy into
>  >>>>>>> said tournament would go to a charity of Penguicon's choice. I know
>  >>>>>> at
>  >>>>>>> least one of our GoH's (if he shows up this time) likes to play and
>  >>>>>>> there should be at least a few other people that would be into it.
>  >>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>> Thoughts, interest, concerns welcome.
>  >>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>> -Ron
>  >>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>> --
>  >>>>>>> Fred Allen  - "Imitation is the sincerest form of television."
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>  >>>>>>  If you met me prior to 3/17/08 you might remember me as Misha.
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