[Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've been thinking

Mon Jun 16 15:52:11 GMT 2008

If that is the case, how then can there be Oktoberfest parties?  And given
that case, how do we get similar legal permission for the delegation of
copious amounts of alcoholic beverages?

On 6/16/08 3:22 PM, "Ron Blanchett" <muteid10t at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am going to take just a second to point out that technically every
> year Penguicon has Given Free beer out in the ConSuite has been a
> violation of Michigan Beverage Law.
> 
> No Business in the State of Michigan can give away beer to anyone and
> no business in the state can provide beer without a beverage license.
> 
> So if we are going to get technical about this idea we should have
> been technical about the Beer issue for the last 6 years.
> 
> I am not trying to rain on the Beer in ConSuite parade just pointing
> out the details.
> And the gambling law thing is a good reason maybe not to have a
> charity poker tournament.
> 
> -Ron
> 
> On 6/16/08, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sarah,
>>  that was an auction, not a casino tournament, so there was no trouble
>>  to prevent.
>> 
>> -Matt
>> 
>> 
>>  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:35 PM, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm going to bet someone who remembers how we handled the auction to benefit
>>> Tracy was handled is still around, they should be able to tell us what we
>>> did to keep from being in trouble with that one. :)
>>> 
>>> Sarah
>>> 
>>> Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
>>> "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
>>> Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
>>> The Chocolate Goddess, coming soon to a con near you
>>> Warrior Princess of the Clan of the Lonely Goatherd
>>> IWG Wench #539 MCL, Local 69
>>> Scarlet B. Harlot, Figure Head for the Scarlet Harlot -- Privateer #36
>>> W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
>>> "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gini <zoethe at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It's not a bad thought, assuming all the other logistics could be solved,
>>>> but we would have to make it clear that it's a donation event, but not
>>>> really a charity event - unless Tom has registered as a charity, we're just
>>>> making a gift to him, not making a tax-deductible charitable donation.  It
>>>> might seem nit-picky, but these legal differences can really trip people
>>>> up.  And it still runs up against the gambling laws.
>>>> 
>>>> Gini
>>>> 
>>>> Rogues are preferable to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest.
>>>> 
>>>> -Dumas
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Mon, 6/16/08, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've been
>>>> thinking
>>>> To: penguicon-general at penguicon.org
>>>> Cc: "Penguicon Concom Discussion List" <concom at penguicon.org>
>>>> Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:21 AM
>>>> 
>>>> Can I suggest a worthy charity?
>>>> 
>>>> Our own Tom Smith has just had knee surgery to fix a torn tendon and will
>>>> shortly (prolly this week) be having the 6th surgery to correct a "birth
>>>> defect" they've been trying to correct all his life.  Tom has been making
>>>> his living off just his music for the past several years and has zero
>>>> insurance.  I know we did a lot to help Tracy through her cancer, maybe we
>>>> can help Tom now?
>>>> 
>>>> Sarah
>>>> (brain almost back on the planet)
>>>> 
>>>> Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
>>>> "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
>>>> Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
>>>> The Chocolate Goddess, coming soon to a con near you
>>>> Warrior Princess of the Clan of the Lonely Goatherd
>>>> IWG Wench #539 MCL, Local 69
>>>> Scarlet B. Harlot, Figure Head for the Scarlet Harlot -- Privateer #36
>>>> W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
>>>> "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Ron Blanchett <muteid10t at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> A charity casino event would be much harder to pull off and would
>>>>> require a lot more work just to get off the ground and way more
>>>>> function space to run. This is why just a poker event is on the table
>>>>> right now and also because I don't have the resources or the interest
>>>>> in a full blown casino event.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/16/08, Jefferson Fury <gyrovagus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> My thought is that Texas Hold'em is not poker.  It is the watered-down
>>>>>>  bastard offspring of poker and had it been born to Romulans would have
>>>>>>  been mercilessly killed at birth.  Why not have real poker?  Maybe
>>>>>>  even expand it to "charity casino event" and have blackjack, craps,
>>>>>>  roulette?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  -moatn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Ron Blanchett <muteid10t at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I have been throwing this thought around for the last couple of
>>>>>> days:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What does everyone think of having a charity poker tournament this
>>>>>>> year at Penguicon???
>>>>>>> It would be Texas Hold'em Poker and all the Money used to buy into
>>>>>>> said tournament would go to a charity of Penguicon's choice. I know
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> least one of our GoH's (if he shows up this time) likes to play and
>>>>>>> there should be at least a few other people that would be into it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thoughts, interest, concerns welcome.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Ron
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Fred Allen  - "Imitation is the sincerest form of television."
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