[Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've been thinking

Mon Jun 16 15:22:52 GMT 2008

I am going to take just a second to point out that technically every
year Penguicon has Given Free beer out in the ConSuite has been a
violation of Michigan Beverage Law.

No Business in the State of Michigan can give away beer to anyone and
no business in the state can provide beer without a beverage license.

So if we are going to get technical about this idea we should have
been technical about the Beer issue for the last 6 years.

I am not trying to rain on the Beer in ConSuite parade just pointing
out the details.
And the gambling law thing is a good reason maybe not to have a
charity poker tournament.

-Ron

On 6/16/08, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sarah,
>  that was an auction, not a casino tournament, so there was no trouble
>  to prevent.
>
> -Matt
>
>
>  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:35 PM, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > I'm going to bet someone who remembers how we handled the auction to benefit
>  > Tracy was handled is still around, they should be able to tell us what we
>  > did to keep from being in trouble with that one. :)
>  >
>  > Sarah
>  >
>  > Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
>  > "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
>  > Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
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>  > W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
>  > "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
>  >
>  > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gini <zoethe at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> It's not a bad thought, assuming all the other logistics could be solved,
>  >> but we would have to make it clear that it's a donation event, but not
>  >> really a charity event - unless Tom has registered as a charity, we're just
>  >> making a gift to him, not making a tax-deductible charitable donation.  It
>  >> might seem nit-picky, but these legal differences can really trip people
>  >> up.  And it still runs up against the gambling laws.
>  >>
>  >> Gini
>  >>
>  >> Rogues are preferable to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest.
>  >>
>  >> -Dumas
>  >>
>  >> --- On Mon, 6/16/08, LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> From: LadySarah <ladysarahmarie at gmail.com>
>  >> Subject: Re: [Penguicon-Concom] [penguicon-general] Danger!! I've been
>  >> thinking
>  >> To: penguicon-general at penguicon.org
>  >> Cc: "Penguicon Concom Discussion List" <concom at penguicon.org>
>  >> Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:21 AM
>  >>
>  >> Can I suggest a worthy charity?
>  >>
>  >> Our own Tom Smith has just had knee surgery to fix a torn tendon and will
>  >> shortly (prolly this week) be having the 6th surgery to correct a "birth
>  >> defect" they've been trying to correct all his life.  Tom has been making
>  >> his living off just his music for the past several years and has zero
>  >> insurance.  I know we did a lot to help Tracy through her cancer, maybe we
>  >> can help Tom now?
>  >>
>  >> Sarah
>  >> (brain almost back on the planet)
>  >>
>  >> Lady Sarah, que_sara_sara
>  >> "I don't know man, I didn't do it." ~~Mal2
>  >> Programming Assistant, Penguicon 6.0
>  >> The Chocolate Goddess, coming soon to a con near you
>  >> Warrior Princess of the Clan of the Lonely Goatherd
>  >> IWG Wench #539 MCL, Local 69
>  >> Scarlet B. Harlot, Figure Head for the Scarlet Harlot -- Privateer #36
>  >> W3NCH, the HAM Radio Wench
>  >> "...because you can't spell Wench with an 8!"
>  >>
>  >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Ron Blanchett <muteid10t at gmail.com>
>  >> wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>> A charity casino event would be much harder to pull off and would
>  >>> require a lot more work just to get off the ground and way more
>  >>> function space to run. This is why just a poker event is on the table
>  >>> right now and also because I don't have the resources or the interest
>  >>> in a full blown casino event.
>  >>>
>  >>> On 6/16/08, Jefferson Fury <gyrovagus at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>> > My thought is that Texas Hold'em is not poker.  It is the watered-down
>  >>> >  bastard offspring of poker and had it been born to Romulans would have
>  >>> >  been mercilessly killed at birth.  Why not have real poker?  Maybe
>  >>> >  even expand it to "charity casino event" and have blackjack, craps,
>  >>> >  roulette?
>  >>> >
>  >>> >  -moatn
>  >>> >
>  >>> >
>  >>> >  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Ron Blanchett <muteid10t at gmail.com>
>  >>> > wrote:
>  >>> >  > I have been throwing this thought around for the last couple of
>  >>> > days:
>  >>> >  >
>  >>> >  > What does everyone think of having a charity poker tournament this
>  >>> >  > year at Penguicon???
>  >>> >  > It would be Texas Hold'em Poker and all the Money used to buy into
>  >>> >  > said tournament would go to a charity of Penguicon's choice. I know
>  >>> > at
>  >>> >  > least one of our GoH's (if he shows up this time) likes to play and
>  >>> >  > there should be at least a few other people that would be into it.
>  >>> >  >
>  >>> >  > Thoughts, interest, concerns welcome.
>  >>> >  >
>  >>> >  > -Ron
>  >>> >  >
>  >>> >  > --
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