[Penguicon-Concom] Hotel Update

[Ron Blanchett]

Matt,

We don't compete with GAMA for attendees we compete with them for gaming GoH's & nifties.
The GAMA Trade Show is just a trade show and wouldn't attract any of our Attendees as our
Attendees are the people that actually pay to come and I suspect that a large majority of said
attendees are not interested in GAMA.

If competing with GAMA is the reason for shifting the date then I suggest that we move the date to either
well before/after college finals and to also not be on the same weekend as any of the major Linux/FOSS
conferences(WAY BIGGER than gama) or any other groups convention or conference. The reason being that
finals keep our Attendees from coming and being on the same week/weekend as any other major conference/convention
keeps us from getting GoH's and Nifties. 

But obviously Matt all you care about at this point is Gaming and a promise that you made with which you
had no authority to make and it seems to me that you are the driving force behind the sudden date change idea.

-Ron

----- Original Message ----
From: Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn at gmail.com>
To: Penguicon Concom Discussion List <concom at penguicon.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2007 11:40:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Penguicon-Concom] Hotel Update

Ron,

We aren't trying to compete with GAMA for attendees. We're competing
with them for pretty much our entire gaming _track_. Not just our
gaming GoH, but pretty much all our gaming Nifties will skip Penguicon
in 2008 as they did in 2007 (with the blessed exception of Steve
Jackson, who isn't coming in 2008, so far as I know). The gaming track
is vastly more than just the Gaming GoH. The Neiblings, the Nifties,
and a dozen other celebs turned us down who would otherwise be regular
Nifties and a signifigant draw.

In mid-2006 I had to console Clark Rodeffer for doing that to our
gamers. I vowed to him at that time, that there is no way in holy heck
we'll do that to our gaming track a second year in a row. So, when I
found out we had scheduled against GAMA again, I raised the alarm.
This isn't all of a sudden. We've been trying to work it out for weeks
now.

A whole lot more than two cents,
Matt


On 6/5/07, Ron Blanchett <rrcb21 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> 2) Why are we looking to change the date all of a sudden? I heard mention of
> GAMA being the reason once and personally I don't think that is a good
> enough reason to change our date. We have never had a problem getting guests
> from that realm in the past being on the same weekend as GAMA and I don't
> see why it would be that much of a problem now. If a guest chooses to go to
> GAMA over coming to PCon then that is there choice and we go with a
> different guest. Changing our date just to work around a Gaming Trade Show
> in Las Vegas looks to be a bad move at this point. We have never changed our
> date to work around the many Linux/OSS Conventions and Conferences that are
> the same week as us (there are several and just about all of them are way
> bigger than GAMA) so I see no need to change the date just to work around a
> Gaming Trade Show.
>
> just my $0.02.
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