[Penguicon-Concom] RE: concom Digest, Vol 21, Issue 3

[john guest]

We expect to own the hotel, and have some overflow.

Speaking of which, folks should start getting their room reservations
in now.  A third of the rooms are smoking, so if you want to avoid
getting stuck in one, act now.  And if you *do* want a smoking room,
act now.  :-)  My preference is to have concom staff in the Hilton,
not in the embassy suites across the street.

But yes, I agree that we should get a buy off on some of the more
"extreme" things we get up to.  :-)

--John Guest

On 12/12/06, Brendan Durrett <dudely427 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
> >From: Dawn Wolfe <drwolfe2001 at yahoo.com>
> >--- Brendan Durrett <dudely427 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > This seems like a bad idea to me.  Especially after the black sweater
> > > party  went SO HORRIBLY WRONG as far as the hotel was concerned, last
> > > year.  Or  perhaps you're thinking something kind and friendly
> > > involving tea parties,  in which case, carry on.
> >
> >Remember, we're at a different hotel this year. The one that hosted the
> >wildness of Youma. Things may well be different.
>
> If anyone remembers that we're at a new hotel, I assure you it is I, the
> hotel liaison. :)
>
> As Matt describes it, I think this is a good idea, although I would like us
> to be SURE the hotel is "owned" by PenguiCon before we agree to a Black
> Sweater party.  I think most Congoers will not have a problem with it.  It
> is highly un-nerving when you suddenly see people walking around with guns
> dressed all in black, and they're hiding behind walls, and peeking around
> corners.  I'd also prefer if we discuss this with the hotel before it
> happens, to be sure they don't have a problem with it.  There are something
> I agree that it's easier to ask forgiveness for than permission.  This is
> not one of those things.
>
>
> >From: "john guest" <phecda at gmail.com>
> >
> >Hi Brendan,
> >
> >Sorry for taking awhile to respond to this -- got hit by a nasty influenza.
> >
> > > Is it possible that I could see the budget?  I'd very much like to offer
> > > thoughts if I come up with any.
> >
> >As soon as I finish making suggested changes, this will be up on a
> >google spreadsheet for everyone to view.
> >
> >I had been overly conservative on revenue, and overestimate costs on a
> >couple items.  Right now we're looking at breaking even, and are
> >pursuing other avenues to boost revenue further.
>
> This is not uncommmon.  I look forward to looking at it.
>
> > > This seems like a bad idea to me.  Especially after the black sweater
> >party
> > > went SO HORRIBLY WRONG as far as the hotel was concerned, last year.  Or
> > > perhaps you're thinking something kind and friendly involving tea
> >parties,
> > > in which case, carry on.
> > >
> >
> >As Dawn pointed out, we are in a very different hotel this year.
> >These folks know and *like* conventions like ours.  If they can deal
> >with 2000 anime fans, they can deal with a black sweater party, or
> >liquid nitrogen (which they have already seen), or pretty much
> >anything that doesn't involve destroying property.
>
> Please read my response above.
>
>
> >From: "Matt Arnold" <matt.mattarn at gmail.com>
> >
> >Brendan,
> >
> >Currently, there is a distinct possibility of having another Black
> >Sweater Party. I am very, very interested in feedback that could
> >influence that decision, and even more interested in suggestions about
> >how the event can be made less traumatic for hotels.
> >
> >The potential Holy War between Subgenius and Pastafarians, as
> >described thus far in our brainstorming, revolved entirely around
> >dressing up as pastamancers and pirates and brandishing pool noodles
> >at each other. In my wildest dreams I can't imagine how any hotel
> >could have a problem with that. But Rob Landley said that Fade Marley
> >asked about "catering" for some reason, which suggested to me that she
> >knew of Subgenius Holy Wars as a pre-existing concept that has been
> >done elsewhere. I'm currently investigating that for ideas.
>
> Again, please read my response above.
>
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