[Penguicon-Concom] RE: concom Digest, Vol 21, Issue 3

[Brendan Durrett]

>From: Dawn Wolfe <drwolfe2001 at yahoo.com>
>--- Brendan Durrett <dudely427 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > This seems like a bad idea to me.  Especially after the black sweater
> > party  went SO HORRIBLY WRONG as far as the hotel was concerned, last
> > year.  Or  perhaps you're thinking something kind and friendly
> > involving tea parties,  in which case, carry on.
>
>Remember, we're at a different hotel this year. The one that hosted the
>wildness of Youma. Things may well be different.

If anyone remembers that we're at a new hotel, I assure you it is I, the 
hotel liaison. :)

As Matt describes it, I think this is a good idea, although I would like us 
to be SURE the hotel is "owned" by PenguiCon before we agree to a Black 
Sweater party.  I think most Congoers will not have a problem with it.  It 
is highly un-nerving when you suddenly see people walking around with guns 
dressed all in black, and they're hiding behind walls, and peeking around 
corners.  I'd also prefer if we discuss this with the hotel before it 
happens, to be sure they don't have a problem with it.  There are something 
I agree that it's easier to ask forgiveness for than permission.  This is 
not one of those things.


>From: "john guest" <phecda at gmail.com>
>
>Hi Brendan,
>
>Sorry for taking awhile to respond to this -- got hit by a nasty influenza.
>
> > Is it possible that I could see the budget?  I'd very much like to offer
> > thoughts if I come up with any.
>
>As soon as I finish making suggested changes, this will be up on a
>google spreadsheet for everyone to view.
>
>I had been overly conservative on revenue, and overestimate costs on a
>couple items.  Right now we're looking at breaking even, and are
>pursuing other avenues to boost revenue further.

This is not uncommmon.  I look forward to looking at it.

> > This seems like a bad idea to me.  Especially after the black sweater 
>party
> > went SO HORRIBLY WRONG as far as the hotel was concerned, last year.  Or
> > perhaps you're thinking something kind and friendly involving tea 
>parties,
> > in which case, carry on.
> >
>
>As Dawn pointed out, we are in a very different hotel this year.
>These folks know and *like* conventions like ours.  If they can deal
>with 2000 anime fans, they can deal with a black sweater party, or
>liquid nitrogen (which they have already seen), or pretty much
>anything that doesn't involve destroying property.

Please read my response above.


>From: "Matt Arnold" <matt.mattarn at gmail.com>
>
>Brendan,
>
>Currently, there is a distinct possibility of having another Black
>Sweater Party. I am very, very interested in feedback that could
>influence that decision, and even more interested in suggestions about
>how the event can be made less traumatic for hotels.
>
>The potential Holy War between Subgenius and Pastafarians, as
>described thus far in our brainstorming, revolved entirely around
>dressing up as pastamancers and pirates and brandishing pool noodles
>at each other. In my wildest dreams I can't imagine how any hotel
>could have a problem with that. But Rob Landley said that Fade Marley
>asked about "catering" for some reason, which suggested to me that she
>knew of Subgenius Holy Wars as a pre-existing concept that has been
>done elsewhere. I'm currently investigating that for ideas.

Again, please read my response above.

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