Fwd: Fwd: [Board] Permission to move the website to Ideal Solution hosting

Thu Jun 21 14:18:24 CDT 2007

Matt,

We need more detail than just a price.

What does that price get us, an account on a shared hosting box or a dedicated box?
What level of support do we get?
How much bandwidth do we get a month?
How much disk space?
Etc, Etc, Etc, on the details questions.

Way, Way, Way, Way more detail than a price is needed for this to go anywhere.

-Ron

----- Original Message ----
From: Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn at gmail.com>
To: Ron Blanchett <muteid10t at gmail.com>; Penguicon Board Discussion List <board at penguicon.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:30:48 AM
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: [Board] Permission to move the website to Ideal Solution hosting

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jeff Lawton <jeff at idealso.com>
Date: Jun 20, 2007 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [Board] Permission to move the website to Ideal
Solution hosting
To: Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn at gmail.com>

$ 299 per year. I am willing to trade against this for advertising also.
thanks.

Jeff Lawton
Ideal Solution, LLC
517-485-2650 ext 220
jeff at idealso.com
http://www.idealso.com

Matt Arnold wrote:
> We have been wating for you to give us the numbers that beat the
> competitor's numbers Ron provided. Make us an offer with numbers, and
> we'll have something to say yes or no to.
>
> In the meantime I found out by talking to my podcasting friends that
> audio files for a podcast can be webhosted on Archive.org for free and
> this is what most of them do with good results. So, we aren't looking
> at an increase in bandwidth this year after all.
>
> -Matt
>
> On 6/13/07, Jeff Lawton <jeff at idealso.com> wrote:
>> Matt,
>> I just wanted to follow up and see what's going on with the Penguicon
>> hosting.  It seems like the conversation has gone quiet and I am not
>> sure if we got it stuck somewhere, if you are still checking other
>> things out, etc.  Thanks.
>>
>> Jeff Lawton
>> Ideal Solution, LLC
>> 517-485-2650 ext 220
>> jeff at idealso.com
>> http://www.idealso.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt Arnold wrote:
>> > Thanks, Ron. That's very informative. I think I'm confused by one
>> > thing though, and there might be a typo. The highest month, 783 MB, is
>> > lower than the average of 197,749 MB.
>> >
>> > -Matt
>> >
>> > On 5/26/07, Ron Blanchett <rrcb21 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> For starters over the last year we averaged 197749.375 MB
>> >> a month (added all bandwidth used and divided by 12). I can
>> >> give an average that includes a broader range as that will give
>> >> a better average of our actual bandwidth usage because the 3-4
>> >> months up to con and the 3-4 months after con are very big
>> >> bandwidth usage months for us. The other 4-6 months are heavy but
>> >> not as heavy. Example of our lowest bandwidth month in the last
>> >> 12 was 34 MB and the highest was 783MB.
>> >>
>> >> With Matt planning to put Audio and Video clips up on the site
>> >> I can see these numbers going well over 1TB a month on the
>> >> top end.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As for the great things that our current host give us. The
>> Intermediate
>> >> level of the matrix on this page outlines the features they give us:
>> >> http://interlix.com/services/zope-plone-hosting/hosting-matrix.
>> >> On top of the things listed on this matrix our current host has
>> >> redundent
>> >> internet connections through several different providers. And they
>> >> run there
>> >> hosting environment from here:
>> >> http://www.springnetunderground.net/assets/main.html.
>> >>
>> >> More info about our current provider can also be found our their
>> >> website:
>> >> http://interlix.com.
>> >>
>> >> If you need more info just shoot me an email: muteid10t at gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Ron
>> >> Penguicon Webmaster
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----
>> >> From: Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Jeff Lawton <jeff at idealso.com>
>> >> Cc: Marshal Newrock <marshal at idealso.com>; Charles Ulrich
>> >> <charles at idealso.com>; Ron Blanchett <muteid10t at gmail.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:39:08 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: [Board] Permission to move the website to Ideal
>> >> Solution hosting
>> >>
>> >> Jeff,
>> >>
>> >> I'm forwarding this to Ron Blanchett who can give us solid numbers on
>> >> Penguicon's bandwidth usage and its averages from high months to low
>> >> months. He can also tell us what benefits our current hosting
>> provider
>> >> is giving us, which I.S. would have to beat.
>> >>
>> >> Ron,
>> >>
>> >> Jeff and Marshal and Charles from the computer lounge are talking
>> >> about coming up with a dedicated server for us at Ideal Solution if
>> >> you decide to go with that. I know our current hosting is great, but
>> >> you are the best person to say why it's so great. They don't
>> charge us
>> >> for massive 100 GB monthly overages-- what else does our current host
>> >> do really well? Please tell them everything so you can see whether
>> >> I.S. can do us even better. Of course it is 100% your decision.
>> >>
>> >> -Matt
>> >>
>> >> P.S. Jeff, keep in mind I'm going to start putting up one or two new
>> >> 50 MB sound files every week for a podcast to countless people. We've
>> >> never really done bandwidth like this before.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 5/23/07, Jeff Lawton <jeff at idealso.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >  and for the rest on the months what did they use? ON AVERAGE
>> >> >  Jeff Lawton
>> >> > Ideal Solution, LLC
>> >> > 517-485-2650 ext 220
>> >> > jeff at idealso.com
>> >> > http://www.idealso.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  Marshal Newrock wrote:
>> >> >  The highest bandwidth used in a month last year was 900GB. That's
>> >> > close enough to a terabyte for me.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, 23 May 2007 10:07:25 -0400
>> >> > Jeff Lawton <jeff at idealso.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  They are on there own server because they are crushing a
>> database and
>> >> > they are doing more traffic. I dont think that the penguicon
>> site is
>> >> > doing a terabyte every month.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jeff Lawton
>> >> > Ideal Solution, LLC
>> >> > 517-485-2650 ext 220
>> >> > jeff at idealso.com
>> >> > http://www.idealso.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Charles Ulrich wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  Marshal Newrock wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  The info I have says that it needs to be able to pull at least a
>> >> > terabyte in a given month, and survive a slashdotting. I don't yet
>> >> > have a peak bandwidth number, though.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  If that's the case, do we want to consider a dedicated server? How
>> >> > much traffic does Elderly pull in a month?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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